over rated?

[ac_01]

The Wachowskis are a touchy subject. Apparently its now cool to hate The Matrix [img]confused.gif[/img] Everyone I know moans about how its general messiah story has been used so many times before, and its nothing more than a holly-woodised hong-kong flick. The only thing I hate about that film is the amount of rip-offs it spawned. Talentless directors never cease to "borrow" from that film. Not to mention how hollywood has jumped on the band-wagon, preaching the mantra "pop-corn entertainment for the mtv generation". [img]mad.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 31, 2003 05:39 PM: Message edited by: ac_01 ]</font>

[ickle_jim]

i must be super cool then cos i thought it wasnt as good as ppl made out from the start...

Strip away the cool special effects and you have a boring sci-fi movie brought above average with some kung fu wire work.

[Cinemaster]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">cinemaster; just cos you can't appreciate the genious of leonardo dicaprio [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

true i cant appreciate the *** of leonardo dicaprio..thats what you said right? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[spaceham]

M. Night Shymalan has a super distinctive style. I can recognize it immediately. I don't like it, but I can recognize it. While we're (and by we're I mean I'm) on the subject, I feel compelled to mention Alejandro Amenabar. The Others was probably one of the lamest movies I've seen in a long time. Maybe it's just me but it reeked of 'Sixth Sense' poseurism. Gasp! The main characters were secretly dead the whole time? Wow! Everything's totally dark and creepy and a child is haunted by ghosts that only they can see? Man, that's original!

[Queen Frostine]

ok...where do i start? i really like danny elfman.

steven spielberg: as much i have always wanted not to like him, i've recently realised what a special filmmaker he really is. not filmmaker who will change the world with his films but probably one of the best entertainers in the history of film? plus his movies have matured with him. every time i start watching one of his films i have to keep watching till the end even if i don't want to...and he does have a distinctive style,pure hollywood i know but you gotta love it.

eyes wide shut: ok, not one of his best.

titanic: was it really that bad? ok, so my perspective may be tinted because i was the perfect age for leomania when the film came out but apart for an appauling script, tacky melodramatic direction/camera angles etc and being an hour and a half too long, oh and disrespectful to history, it was kind of cool?? in an ironic way?

what about paul thomas anderson? he hasn't made a bad film yet and you call tell he directed them.

OH i just remembered who i REALLY hate...CAMERON CROWE. i'll try and be quick: not only is he self centred(in a bad way: self centred in a good way is woody allen)but he is the most unoriginal, unadventurious filmmaker i have ever seen. he remade abre los ojos by the amazing alejandro amenabar and screwed it up completely. not to mention how when he spells out subtleties to the audience because he is worried that they are all as dumb as him it makes me CRINGE. then if i didn't hate him enough already he brought out a book of interviews with billy wilder which is trying so hard to be the hitchcock-truffaut book that it should just be put out of it's misery and shot.

[Queen Frostine]

oh, but singles was kind of good

[bully_the_kid]

i partially agree with untamed aggression on John Williams. Ok, he made "Jaws" and "Star Wars" but if you listen carefully to his musics, they are quite the same. as i bough his 'best of' collection i can confirm that.

Talkin about style,
i'll say that the most stylish directors are:

1) Tim Burton
2) Peter Jackson
3) M. Night Shyamalan
4) Steven Spielberg
5) Quentin Tarantino
6) Robert Zemeckis

and i think that the most overrated director on hearth is Steven Soderbergh. I couldn't believe when they gave him the Oscar!

Also useless and overrated directors are The Wachowski bros ('cause Matrix is **** to me), Franco Zeffirelli and Spike Lee.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 31, 2003 12:57 PM: Message edited by: bully_the_kid ]</font>

[Queen Frostine]

zefirelli? [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

[Queen Frostine]

alejandro amenabar's earlier films are his best although i think that for what it is, the others is a really good movie. his financers asked him to make a film with few characters, hardly any special effects and set in only one location and he still manages to keep people entertained and a little scared. it even reminded me a little of hitchcock...plus he doesn't just write, direct and edit, he writes the score. as for the originality thing, films don't have to have originl stories, in fact there are only 7 different stories in the whole world, isn't it all in the way the stories are told??

i hated the matrix. i don't want it to reload.

[emjen]

I really liked the matrix. It has an interesting view of how people live in the world and in their dreams. You can't do whatever you want when you're dreaming, can you? For some kind of reason there still are rules when you are dreaming. What if you didn't know the difference between reality and a dream? What if your reality was your dream? What if you could break the rules and really do whatever you wanted to do in your dreams/reality!

It's pretty neat.

A film with a story which isn't all that, but really worked well IMO is Requiem for a Dream. And Clint Mansel is one of the best composers I know man! Because it was filmed the way it was filmed, cut the way it was cut and had the soudtrack the way it sounded, the requiem was a really emotional piece of movie. For me.

I agree with Ridley Scott. The Gladiator was great though.

But you can't expect every director to make non-stop masterpieces, now can you? Steven Spielberg is a great director, but some of his movies are just average. A director has to experiment sometimes, and sometimes the experiments don't work, and sometimes they do.